LOGAN URY on Modern Dating: Why Sparks Fade & Slow Burns Last | IMO

Dating coach and behavioral expert Logan Ury joins the podcast to discuss all things dating and love. She shares her go-to strategies for a first date, why you shouldn’t care so much about whether there’s a “spark,” and how to find an authentic connection in a dating world mediated by technology and phones. Plus, Michelle shares how she and Barack first fell in love.

[00:00:00] Summer Friends with Barack Obama
[00:02:16] The Online Dating Landscape Today
[00:03:02] The Spark vs. the Slow Burn
[00:08:35] Friendship Turns Into Something More
[00:10:53] Overcoming Dating Rules and Fear of Judgment
[00:12:13] Dating Advice for Malia and Sasha
[00:15:46] Meet Logan Ury: Love Scientist
[00:17:37] How Dating Apps Changed Everything
[00:19:09] Are We Losing the Art of In-Person Flirting?
[00:21:29] Listener Question: Am I Too Picky or Just Romantic?
[00:25:49] Debunking the Myth of the Spark
[00:28:09] Butterflies Might Be Anxiety
[00:36:15] The Power of the Slow Burn
[00:40:29] Why Your “How We Met” Story Doesn’t Matter
[00:41:14] Are You a Romanticizer, Maximizer, or Hesitator?
[00:43:48] Why Marriage Is Hard—and Worth It
[00:49:13] Craig’s 30 Dealbreakers (and One Wise Woman)
[00:52:57] How to Clarify What Actually Matters
[00:55:35] Look in the Mirror Before Asking for Perfection
[00:57:50] Logan’s Game Plan: The Post-Date 8
[01:00:50] Final Takeaways: Love is Work—but Worth It

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Michelle Obama and her big brother Craig Robinson bring their unique experiences and candid perspectives to a range of personal dilemmas, from the everyday to the existential. Each week, they’re joined by a special guest to tackle audience questions with practical advice, terrific stories, and plenty of laughs. From dating and relationships to parenting and financial planning, IMO sees the iconic First Lady at her most relaxed and honest. This podcast will leave you laughing, reflecting, and feeling more prepared to tackle life’s challenges.

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Michelle’s passion for storytelling has set sales records, garnered awards and accolades, and earned her global acclaim. Her memoir, Becoming, spent over 130 weeks on the New York Times Bestsellers list, sold more than 17 million copies worldwide, and won a Grammy Award. American Factory, the first film produced by her and her husband Barack Obama’s media company Higher Ground, won the Academy Award for Best Documentary in 2020. Upon its release in 2020, The Michelle Obama Podcast was the most successful original in Spotify history, bringing in more women listeners over 40 than any other podcast. Through the Obama Foundation, she founded the Girls Opportunity Alliance, which supports adolescent girls' education and empowerment around the world.

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Craig is the Executive Director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) and host of the Higher Ground podcast Ways To Win with Hall of Fame coach John Calipari. From 2017-2020, he served as the vice president of Player Development and Minor League Operations for the NBA’s New York Knicks. Previously, he was a Division I head men’s basketball coach at Oregon State and Brown, and spent more than a decade working as a trader in the investment banking industry. Most importantly, he is a husband and father of four.

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Higher Ground was founded by President Barack Obama and Michelle Obama in 2018 to tell powerful stories that entertain, inform, and inspire—while elevating new and diverse voices in the entertainment industry. Learn more at https://highergroundmedia.com/

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